In this episode of the DTALKS Podcast, the dads continue their talk with former Survivor: Gabon contestant Charlie Herschel about having child via surrogacy and what life has been like in the days following the birth of their child

This episode of The DTALKS Podcast contains language you’d find in an PG-13 movie. That language is not be safe for most work environments, for your kids, and listener discretion is advised.